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« on: October 24, 2003, 09:46:01 am »

Hi,

I must confess I'm at a loss: I have so many chinese language files that people sent to me, I can't make up the difference between one and the other (I understand that there is Traditional and Simplified Chinese and these are somehow related to the encoding big5 and gb2312).

I could use the help of those who actually speak chinese: could you download the different files I received, discuss this (in this thread), test it out (some files I received didn't work and returned errors) and come up with only two files: one being big5 and one gb?

Download the package with a multitude of chinese language files in it: http://gaugau.de/partner/cpg/chinese.zip

Thanks to all of you.

GauGau

P.S. please mind the linebreaks, will you? And please don't send rar archives - WinRar is not free, I don't have it on my pc. Just rename the files to xxx.txt and send them uncompressed
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2003, 04:15:24 pm »

my test result:

chinese_big5-utf-8.php (Error, line break problem)
chinese_big5.php (Error, line break problem)
chinese_gb-utf-8.php (OK, and it is not UTF-8, don't know what is it)
chinese_gb.php (OK)
chinese_gb2312-utf-8.php (Error, seem mix the remark with array, and It is not UTF-8 )
chinese_gb2312.php (Error, seem mix the remark with array)
traditional_chinese_big5.php (Error, seem mix the remark with array)
traditional_chinese_utf-8.php (Error, seem mix the remark with array)

How about my version of tranditional chinese?
http://www.hkfun.com/file/chinese_tranditional.zip
I am using it, should be ok. but I have reviewed the wording of the file, some people may don't like it.

BTW, there is 2 written form of  chinese
Tranditional chinese: using in Taiwan, HongKong, Macau
Simplified Chinese: using in Mainland china and singapore

Even though Taiwan and Hong Kong using Tranditional Chinese, they have different wording on the same thing (so I say some people may don't like my translation)

For the charset,
GB - created by Mainland china, for simplified chinese
BIG5 - created by Taiwan, for tranditional chinese
Unicode - Both simplified & tranditional chinese.
the Unicode is the best solution on chinese, due to some reason, the BIG5 contains some control code in the chinese encoding (the big problem is the "\" on php), the GB is better on that.
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2003, 05:22:37 pm »

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Tranditional chinese: using in Mainland china and singapore
Simplified Chinese: using in Taiwan, HongKong, Macau

Wrong way round  :)

Gaugau, could you look again at the file I sent you (the one I put up on hypermart), and try integrating that into the 1.1.0 chinesebig5 file again? The file I sent you had no line break problems, and neither did the 1.10 chinesebig5 one. I don't know why the output file had all the linebreaks removed.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2003, 05:36:15 pm »

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Tranditional chinese: using in Mainland china and singapore
Simplified Chinese: using in Taiwan, HongKong, Macau

Wrong way round  :)


 :shock:
thanks...
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2003, 06:20:18 am »

I read the fatman's language file and find the translation very fluent and precise. I like it very much :P  (better than what I did :oops: ).
Sorry, I know nothing about php, thus I have no idea what's wrong with my file, the traditional_chinese_utf-8.php. I edit it in jEdit and replaced the strings within the single quote while some segments copied from the chinese_big5-utf-8.php. Probably I made some typos or mistakes doing copy-and-paste to break the arrays?
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2003, 01:49:25 pm »

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I read the fatman's language file and find the translation very fluent and precise.


Yes, I agree. Much better than the original version.  :D
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2003, 03:36:44 pm »

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Gaugau, could you look again at the file I sent you (the one I put up on hypermart), and try integrating that into the 1.1.0 chinesebig5 file again? The file I sent you had no line break problems, and neither did the 1.10 chinesebig5 one. I don't know why the output file had all the linebreaks removed.
Oasis,

Chinese language files are a complete mystery to me - I'm really lost, could you please do this with the help of the other chinese-speaking community members? I have been looking into hundreds of language files of all kinds in the last weeks, I can't manage this anymore. There have been issues of all kinds; I'd like the chinese community to agree on some files which I can just put into the package and that's it.
I haven't created one single line of code since quite a long time, because this language issue is so time-consuming; I'd love to work more on the actual coppermine development.

GauGau
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2003, 06:06:51 am »

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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2003, 06:07:50 pm »

[POST EDITED]
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2003, 11:22:37 am »

Quote from: "gaugau"
And please don't send rar archives - WinRar is not free, I don't have it on my pc.

Maybe you should try this http://www.7-zip.org. It is easy to use and very stable, and most important, open sourced. :)
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2003, 12:52:00 am »

Hello Oasis,

Since, chinese is the main "subject" in here, could you give me a little help? I need a small translation of a Intro text, since you can read/write english you are my only "resource" of it, and you can type chinese (Big5) as well.

Let me tell you something.
My parents are from Taiwan either, i've been there many times, as a matter of fact, i'll be in Taiwan for this New Year.
We are 'Hakka', i supose you can speak Hakka as well, since you are from Hsinchu (my family is from Hsin Wu and Yan Mei).

I can speak chinese but i can't write it, i went to chinese school, but the only thing i can write is my own name and recognize a few words, but i'm a 'legit illiterate', that's why i ask for your help.

If you can do this favor to me, can i PM you the text?
It's a very simple one.

Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2003, 05:03:22 pm »

Hi Guys,

The million dollar question for me is ...

Where are the correct Chinese language files?
Are they included in the latest distribution yet?

I am working on a project that requires Chinese and I'm a bit nervous based on this conversation.

Please let me know.

Thanks,

Erbuc
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2003, 07:03:52 pm »

@oZmosis: Sure, send me your text. I hope it's not too long though coz I'm working on a big project due this wednesday.  :)

@erbuc: Yes, the correct language files are included with the latest release (1.2)
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