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Title: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Gary B on January 22, 2006, 08:40:33 pm
Maybe this isn't the right place to ask...but since it was brought up here...can anyone tell my why I have a -2 karma score? I have always tried to follow the guidelines and have always tried to be polite and appreciative.

Thanks
Gary
Title: Re: PHP and MySQL installation error
Post by: Joachim Müller on January 22, 2006, 09:28:52 pm
Hm, no - it's not the right place imo, but anyway - here's what can get you a negative karma rating (only devs, moderators, supporters and some other privileged groups can give karma btw.):

We use the karma system (that is available on SMF installs out-of-the-box for everyone and only restricted here on the coppermine board by using a custom hack) for internal purposes: to track users who constantly misbehave. Supporters are reluctant to help users with a high negative karma record, and a negative karma record may influence the decision to ban a user.
It's easy to receive negative karma (especially for newbies) and comparatively hard to receive positive karma - you get it for contributing in one way or the other (e.g. by giving support, contributing a mod, theme, translation or similar). For details how you can increase your karma, see http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/index.php?topic=14227.0

Others have asked about negative karma as well, searching for it would have explained it as well and you wouldn't have risked receiving more negative karma for thread hijacking and posting as question that has been asked and answered already. I split your question and my reply from the unrelated thread (http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/index.php?topic=26810.0).
There's nothing to worry for you if you have a negative karma, as long as you try to respect board rules in the future; your positive karma would even increase if you contributed in one way or the other, making your overall karma increase on the way.

Joachim
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Pascal YAP on January 24, 2006, 02:09:23 pm
hi GauGau,

Quote
It's easy to receive negative karma (especially for newbies) and comparatively hard to receive positive karma

i agreee with you, but since i begin our French Coppermine Forum (http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/index.php?board=38.0), i stay on a small and poor KARMA 5 :-\
You, GauGau, you are on a KARMA 37...
But we are not exactly the same developper, C'est la Vie !

I'm Happy at all  ;D

PYAP
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Pascal YAP on January 29, 2006, 10:13:02 pm
Oh Nice Day,

Following my preceding message, when my KARMA was only 5, this one increased to 7 now  ;D
Who made two clicks ?
THANX
PYAP
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Paver on January 29, 2006, 10:42:55 pm
Think of negative karma as a bump on the knee.  Figure out why you bumped your knee, then avoid that coffee table the next time you are near it.  Like a bump on the knee, the longer you are alive (posting/contributing to this site), the more it heals itself.

We all make mistakes now & again.  As GauGau said, the supporters use it to quickly gauge someone's past behavior when judging current behavior.  You won't be ignored, but it might flavor the response you get.
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Joachim Müller on January 29, 2006, 11:57:14 pm
i agreee with you, but since i begin our French Coppermine Forum (http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/index.php?board=38.0), i stay on a small and poor KARMA 5 :-\
Pascal,

you're doing excellent work on the French support board, but most people who can give karma don't visit the french support board, so they don't give you positive karma, as they can't see nor understand your continued support work. Don't let this get you down - after all, karma rating has been introduced to spot users who misbehave (giving them negative karma). Positive karma comes as a by-product, I wouldn't worry to much.
Hint: your fellow french supporters could give you karma, as they can monitor your support work best.
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Tranz on January 30, 2006, 12:21:05 am
Who made two clicks ?
I gave one.  :-* :D

I agree with what GauGau said... you're doing a great job but it's not visible to those of us who don't go to the French board. But know that your help is appreciated by many people. :)
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: v8central on June 04, 2006, 11:07:07 pm
I hope I don't loose more karma for posting here, but the question was asked on this thread and not fully addressed.

My karma is -2 at the moment, and I can guess that one point was GauGau but how do I know where my other "offence" was ??  Is there a way of looking up which posts attracted negative karma (I have hunted and searched around but I can't find where) ?

cheers :)
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Tranz on June 05, 2006, 12:00:21 am
We can't clutter the boards with discussions on negative karma source for individuals. For general advice, you would need to go into your profile and review your recent posts. Additionally, it's possible for multiple supporters to lower someone's karma, and this tends to occur for more egregious activity, like flaming, etc.
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: v8central on June 05, 2006, 11:20:19 am
Thanks for the reply, I wasn't wanting a discussion about it - more like a link of karma points (+/-) to posts but it's ok if that doesn't exist :)
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Joachim Müller on June 05, 2006, 12:15:28 pm
As suggested above: the BBS software we use (SMF) has karma rating as a feature. We slightly modified it to only allow certain usergroups to rate. The karma system of SMF doesn't have the feature to store the thread where you got karma from; modifying the SMF karma system to accomplish this would be a serious and complicated hack that would make updating SMF harder, that's why we won't implement it. Take the karma system for what it is: a tool for devs and supporters. For you as a user, it should just exist as a warning to respect board rules and review your postings extra carefully before submitting. You can increase your positive karma by contributing in one way or another (see "We need your help (http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/index.php?topic=14227.0)").

Joachim
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: trippinsweet on June 19, 2006, 10:55:31 am
GauGau, I'm pretty sure the Karmic Description mod does exactly what you just said (http://mods.simplemachines.org/index.php?mod=192)

Easy enough intsall for an unmodded SMF.
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Joachim Müller on June 19, 2006, 08:52:40 pm
Won't install it, as the mod description "This mod allow to see, for what user change Karma to other users." doesn't mean much to me. Sloppy description often means sloppy coding - I don't trust it. Thanks for the hint though.
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: trippinsweet on June 22, 2006, 01:02:46 pm
No problem, just trying to help...
And as I understand it... the author of the mod isn't a native english speaker and he didn't have anyone who was look over the english descriptions.
Apart from that... I haven't had problems running the mod on my SMF install.
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Joachim Müller on June 22, 2006, 06:26:05 pm
Yeah, but what does it actually do? I think the SMF community would appreciate if you posted a more detailed description and review of the mod as a comment to the mod page you refered to. This way, others might benefit as well.
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Puffinstuff on July 22, 2006, 08:21:10 am
Holly Molly,

0 to -4 Karma in one swoop.

http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/index.php?topic=34059.0

I can understand -1 or maybe -2, but -4 for an innocent mistake?.

Do the crime, do the time... Double posted....  guilty and appologised.


Perplexed as to why it has gone to -4. PM'd supporter maybe?... replied to one sent to me.

Little chance of getting any help now with  -4.  And not many avenues open to me to increase Karma.

Very dissapointed... ( a little harsh IMHO)
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Pascal YAP on July 22, 2006, 10:42:50 am
Puffinstuff,
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I can understand -1 or maybe -2, but -4 for an innocent mistake?.. guilty and appologised.

And not many avenues open to me to increase Karma.
Very dissapointed...

-3K Now  ;D
it's not me ! ! !  ;)
PYAP
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Joachim Müller on July 22, 2006, 09:07:23 pm
Did you read the thread you replied to? It tells you what you could get negative karma for. Meta-discussion about the karma won't help improving it. You should do as suggested, read up board rules and try respecting them from now on. This thread contains information on how to improve your karma as well. However, nobody said that you couldn't get support any longer. It's entirely up to the individual supporter if he/she wants to give support or not. Some may take your negative karma into account, others won't.

In your particular case, this is what you got negative karma for:
- asking for support on an issue that is not meant to go into the board you posted in
- sending an unrequested PM
- cross-posting / double-posting
- Failing to do as suggested

Details can be found on the thread you misbehaved in.
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: bitcloud on November 26, 2006, 08:10:54 am
You have negative Karma because:

A) You searched the board for hours and couldn't find the post because the search doesn't work very well, so you posted a new topic.
B) You tried to post on relevant topics but were unable to due to user restrictions. You instead posted in the closest thing to your chosen forum.
C) You didn't spend 2 years locked in your basement studying PHP so got confused by the uncommented JS nested within HTML nested within PHP.
D) You're trying to strike up discussions with other users of the forums without intervention or judgement from the moderators.
E) You're trying to implement something "impossible" or "pointless" (something you've seen implemented on countless other sites and later find out is actually quite east to implement)
F) You tried to add levity to a post, instead of perpetuating steely cold condescension.

Avoid these 6 points and you'll avoid negative karma...  ;)

Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: donnoman on November 27, 2006, 03:07:40 am
You forgot: A great way to achieve negetive karma, is to whine about negative karma.
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: bitcloud on November 27, 2006, 06:30:38 am
I guess my point is, that it's one thing for users to have negative karma on a forum, but it's an entirely different thing for an entire piece of software to have negative karma in the eyes of the public...
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Joachim Müller on November 27, 2006, 07:02:32 am
We got the message, you had your say. Please stop the rant now.
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Bacchus1 on December 08, 2006, 10:17:23 am
I think when Karma points are given or taken the member should be told why via a PM. This would be more effective if you are trying to teach people how to use the board properly, and what sort of transgressions/good they are doing. As a teacher I have found that marks or grades are nothing if they are not justified ... people tend to prefer to believe in favoritism, or being picked on when criticism is unjustified with proof.

Additionally, it will also make sure that those who give out Karma have justifiable reasons.

Just my 2 cents. Hope I don't get any more bad Karma from this.

Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: teenagevenus on March 08, 2007, 03:34:56 pm
Well I've read all this - and so far as a dumb blonde CAN understand - and now having read every single posting on all threads - I have come to one single conclusion guaranteed to increase the 'LITTLE MAN IN OVERALLS's postings well above the 30,00 plus, and probablly increase his positive KARMA to 1,087, whilst dropping mine to unheard of negative depths.

Before he gets chance to delete it, here is what I figure:

Our ADMIN is a very insecure little man that boosts his ego at every opportunity by knocking every poster he can at every opportunity.

He is ruining what should be a forum in which people can give and receive help, in his efforts to instil in everyone "I AM THE BOSS. WHATEVER I SAY OR DO IS RIGHT.

THIS IS MY BOARD - IF I CAN'T HAVE MY OWN WAY AND ALWAYS BE RIGHT I WILL KICK YOU OFF.

We had kids at school like that with the "It's MY ball. If I can't win I will take it away."

GauGau - LOOK AT YOURSELF - you are pissing it up for everyone, whereas you could probably be a great help if you shed your 'Superiority' complex and Bumptious attitude and ditched your system of being JUDGE, JURY, and EXECUTIONER.


And all this because I'm a dumb blonde naive enough to think if I posted on a forum dedicated to the software I was interested in, and offered to pay for someone to help me install it, I would probably get an offer of help - instead of being 'ticked' off and told to read something I ALREADY HAD READ - but which is so full of grammatical and other errors and ambiguities that only the person dreaming it up would have much of a clue as to what it all meant.

I say that because the little man in overalls seems to almost spend his existance telling others to read what he's written.

The fact that he deems it necessary to do so in such profusion points to one of two things:

The majority of people posting on here are thick as two short planks - or just MAYBE, the various bits members are instructed by him to read, could be re-written with some modicum of clarity. (Bang goes ANOTHER 348 minus KARMA points.)

teenagevenus.

PS: if anyone would like to help with an installation my email is teenagevenus at yahoo dot co dot uk. ;) ;)


Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Hein Traag on March 08, 2007, 04:57:22 pm
Well, that one way to earn negative karma. You've made your point. Stop ranting.

Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Joachim Müller on March 08, 2007, 08:16:05 pm
but which is so full of grammatical and other errors and ambiguities that only the person dreaming it up would have much of a clue as to what it all meant.
I'm sorry that my first language is not English and therefor my writing doesn't meet your quality criteria. It must be great to be the perfect Übermensch that you appear to be.

I say that because the little man in overalls seems to almost spend his existance telling others to read what he's written.
The documentation is a community effort, as well as the rest of the software. It's not something that I have come up with. Instead of ranting you could have reviewed it and fixed what is broken.

Cheers ;D

The little man in overalls

Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: teenagevenus on March 08, 2007, 09:37:16 pm
Re my -
PS: if anyone would like to help with an installation my email is teenagevenus at yahoo dot co dot uk. 

I posted very sincere and nice requests asking if anyone would install 'coppermine' on a clean site for me in return for good pay.

As I obviously told a certain guy a few home truths later, my requesrts were deleted from the board.

PETTY - but expected, as my summing up of him was obviously correct and REALLY struck home.

I expect THIS will get the chop to - all because I teenage blonde wanted help and was prepared to pay for it.

Methinks he was not only told the truth, but I omitted to add he was probably a 'queer' too. (A sad disgrace to the Gay community.)

teenageveenus@yahoo.co.uk and I will pay well. Note my email quick - before the little queer in trousers deletes this too.

Thanks. (I know most of you are decent guys - but you always get ONE, don't you.)

Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: François Keller on March 09, 2007, 07:23:45 am
Hi,

I think we all have understant. Stop now with your "teenage blonde" childishness.
Someone seems to help you (see the paid hel board) for free. He certainly nit read your posts here  :D

P.S. Sorry for my grammaticals and others errors with my poor english  ;D
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Joachim Müller on March 09, 2007, 08:33:38 am
This thread deals with negative karma, yet you spoil it again by asking people to set up Coppermine for you (although you already have another open thread). This is what is called "cross-posting". It is not appreciated in any support forum (and board rules clearly say so), so this might be another explanation why your karma is going down. Now stop your rant, and stop insulting me. It wasn't me who deleted your thread (but some other moderator), nor was it me who restored it (although it was perfectly justified to delete your thread - it was restored for giggles). Stop blaming me for stuff that I'm not involved in. You had your shot at trolling here (a very lame effort though). Stop it now - STFU, or get banned!
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: teenagevenus on March 10, 2007, 12:52:39 am
GauGau:
RE:-
This thread deals with negative karma, yet you spoil it again by asking people to set up Coppermine for you (although you already have another open thread). This is what is called "cross-posting". It is not appreciated in any support forum (and board rules clearly say so), so this might be another explanation why your karma is going down. Now stop your rant, and stop insulting me. It wasn't me who deleted your thread (but some other moderator), nor was it me who restored it (although it was perfectly justified to delete your thread - it was restored for giggles). Stop blaming me for stuff that I'm not involved in. You had your shot at trolling here (a very lame effort though). Stop it now - STFU, or get banned!
YOU were the one that told me to read what you had put. By doing so you infered I HAD NOT - Untrue  - I had.

You try to be 'sarky' (Ask an English friend if you don't know what that means), trying to take the P about my commenting on errors in your explanations, and pleading you were a 'Foreigner' to the language. Fine. I accept that (I did not knoew at the time).

The fact that I did NOT know is actually a compliment to your command of the English language. However, I must point out that in this SAME thread you SCORN another for being EXACTLY like yourself - unclear in his instructions.

In my ignorance - as you were apparently the only one littering the boards with requests to read the instructions - it seemed you actually owned it. (In fact I realise now that you choose to be the most vocal (or your companions are more tolerant and understanding - or you always beat them to the draw.

SURE I posted a request on here, but it WAS NOT a DOUBLE POSTING as you claim. In fact my original posting had been deleted. I had no idea what I had done wrong to have you chip in a tell me to read the instructions, so I virtually paraphrased ANOTHER request which had somehow managed to avoid receiving your (standard) criptic comment.

HOWEVER, THAT TOO was deleted.

Now I came here thinking it was a site dedicated to 'coppermine' in all its aspects, and that the 'HELP' forum would be the place to have someone that knew a bit about it offer to install it if I paid he or she.

I did NOT realise it was run like a Ghestapo training camp and woe betide any unwary newcomer that actually posted in hopes of meeting kindred spirits. I was unaware that like GOD him/herself, every 'newbie (or in GOD's case - 'newborn') would almost automatically recieve negative KARMA for being unable to re-translate a translation of 'rules', and so be condemned with the mark of K(ane).

I'm a persistant girl as certain physical and health problems have taught me how to NOT be ignored and spoken about as if I were a bloody idiot.

(Just try being wheeled around in a wheelchair and see what it is like. VERY few speak to me. MOST say things like "How is she? Would she like a sweet." or "Is she warm enough do you think?")

THAT's why I object to someone ordering me to read some gobbledigook I have already tried to make sense of 3-4 times.

That's why I got a bit 'shirty' when I asked for paid help, and unwittingly created the cardinal sin of not conforming EXACTLY to the unclear demands of the 'Master of the Hounds'.

I DID apologise - though what I'd done wrong I did not know - and made a request for clarity which I did not get. Just another 'ticking off' from another 'Oberlietenant' (I apologise for the spelling but I guess my meaning is clear.

As for the OTHER MODERATOR who restored my thread "FOR GIGGLES" - I think that more or less says it all doesn't it??????

HOWEVER, if my postings are of such amusement and sport to Moderators, then STOP BEING SO STUPID and COMPLAINING about them.

EITHER I was wrong to ask for paid help in the "PAID HELP" forum and it deserved deleting or it did NOT.

TO MOAN ABOUT MY POSTINGS AND DELETE THEM AND REINSTATE THEM TO HAVE A GIGGLE MAY SEEM GREAT TO MODERATORS.

Methinks that the average gal or guy visiting will wonder - as did I - "What the hell sort of management have they on here? Is it a forum for "coppermine users" or a spot to take the P out of every newcomer by complaining about them, dishing them out NEGATIVE KARMA, deleteing postings then reinstating them for 'laughs', and accusing them of being 'insulting', when all they did was EXACTLY what the accuser did to someone far more deserving of respect.

Now back to how this all started, GauGau - and hopefully YOU and at least ONE other 'Moderator' (I use the term in its loosest form) - will maybe have learned something.

YOU WANT RESPECT - Then don't treat others as idiots, or IMEDIATELY condemn them for making what YOU consider is some big crime of not conforming to very unclear instructions. (If they are NOT unclear, then WHY do so many newcomers trip up when trying to follow them?)

Get rid of your ill thought out KARMA and do what any NORMAL SENSIBLE webmaster does: Set out basic rules and if anyone accidently breaks one, then inform them, explain the 'crime' and warn them. Or if they BLATANTLY set out to break the rules then ban them.

Cut out the ill-feeling even the thickest of you must see your virtually automatic dishing out of NEGATIVE KARMA causes.

Consentrate on letting the forums run themselves, and Moderators just chip in when NECESSARY to give a guiding comment - or come down hard on someone DELIBERATELY flaunting the rules.

If you just want an exclusive board for techno geeks that can give each other bountiful helpings of KARMA then make it plain to anyone seeking assistance that they are NOT WELCOME: That this board/forum/site is not here to offer either a friendly hand or paid help to any non-technical, un-fully-computor-literate peasant. It is here for the sport, pleasure, 'you-scratch-my-back-and-give-me-KARMA-and-I'll-scratch-yours exclusive 'coppermine fraternity upper echelon.

And if any of you guys are more interested in 'coppermine' and promoting it, improving it, and guiding others towards doing the same - instead of rattling like empty cans at every opportunity to knock anyone less knowledgeable, or that you deem to have less KARMA or whatever, I'm quite happy to provide and host a BB for you where you can go about your business, and also get paid for helping other 'wouldbe 'coppermine' enthusiasts to use and promote it.

That is the end of my sermon which I FEEL FULLY JUSTIFIED IN GIVING, having been 'bullied', lied about, wrongly accused, and used as a butt for MODERATOR GIGGLES.

You aught to be bloody ashamed of yourselves.

One other point: I not only own three ARTICLE DISTRIBUTION SITES, but syndicate many articles to all the other major providers of articles for bloggs, webmasters, newsletters, magazines, and news syndicates, RSS feeds, etc.  And have a further 32 sites (all with minimum of PR4) on which I post for an average of slightly more visitors a day on each than you get here in a month) I just checked one at random and the visitor count for that one is showing:
Updated Daily    Visitors since 01/04/05 -  1,916,577 That is about average for over 30 sites.

The point I'm making is that just a modicum of tolerance, common sense, and maybe a touch of human kindness can win you freinds and REAL KARMA.

Behaving more in the manner of an SS Officer toward his recruits will get you ABSOLUTELY F*** A** - except some REALLY BAD PUBLICITY for yourself, the other "Moderators" and worst of all - COPPERMINE as being in any form a viable alternative to the many other free and licenced scripts available - if only because the average Jean or Joe's chance of getting other than insulted when seeking assistance is pretty remote.

I have copied ALL the relevent Qs and As - and have a full count of the "Read the bloody instructions" posting to innocent aid seekers, plus assorted comments on here about KARMA, and some other interesting bits from around.

Should it be necessary that will make one hell of an argument in favour of wouldbe photo software or whatever purchasers/users steering well clear of 'coppermine' in favour of at least one equal - or better - free alternative with HELPFUL support forums.

(Obviously "REECE" is not included as being 'tared with the same brush'.)

You started your ill-thought-out and pompous reply by stating:

This thread deals with negative karma, yet you spoil it again

I DID NOT SPOIL IT AGAIN - it was my FIRST posting on it - and only because my other two had been deleted.

You say it deals with 'negative karma' - WELL BELIEVE ME, Gau Gau, this WHOLE THING is negative karma - so don't start whining again and accusing.

I told you once before you should step back and have a look at yourself and your actions and attitude. That was good advice, GauGau. DO NOT ACCUSE, LIE, DEMAND PERSONS DO WHAT THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE.

STOP. THINK. What are you HERE for?????????? Behave like the obviously intelligent person you are - not like a little Hitler.

We obviously have a problem because we are of different origins. Just as The Americans can't understand the Arabs - and vice versa, but your history and two world wars should have taught you SOMETHING!!!!!!

I'm going to sleep now, however, I'm sure many of you will spend a while having a good giggle at my expense . (OR just MAYBE not at mine but GauGua and a certain "Moderator"s.)

Peace and love GauGau - (Because you never win wars), and probably fairwell.

teenagevenus.

PS: Don't accuse me of having had my shot at 'trolling' either, little man. Who would dream of trolling HERE in competition with your efforts at denigrating every single newcomer!!!!!!!!!!!!!




 
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Nibbler on March 10, 2007, 01:11:52 am
Look, all you are doing here is embarrassing yourself. I restored your thread because it should have not have been deleted. I did not restore it for 'giggles'. It was and still is a serious request for help. I am English and I understand your post completely. What I do not understand is why you choose to insult people who would be perfectly willing to help you if you treated them with respect. Hurling Nazi related insults at a German team member will not earn you any respect or any friends here. If you want people to be nice to you because you are offering money then you should be using commercial software. I hope you will regret making this post in the morning.
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Tarique Sani on March 10, 2007, 06:02:17 am
Don't accuse me of having had my shot at 'trolling' either, little man. Who would dream of trolling HERE in competition with your efforts at denigrating every single newcomer!!!!!!!!!!!!

teenagevenus I rarely comment here these days but could not stop myself in the face of your vitriolic, racist and outright abusive post. Stop it, apologize to Gaugau for your post else for sake of civility I will have to ban you.

P.S. Notice that I have a karma of -1000
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Abbas Ali on March 10, 2007, 06:41:55 am
Events that took place -


In this whole episode i didn't saw GauGau insulting teenagevenus or saying any bad words against her nor is he dictating her. He calmly told her to read the rules thread which every forum administrator tells to a newcomer so that the newcomer knows how to construct their posts for a better and faster response. GauGau tried to help her so that she receives responses for her job request faster.

This reminds me of a good old Hindi saying "Naiki kar darya mein daal", which means "If you do something good for others, they will throw your good deed in sea".
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: teenagevenus on March 10, 2007, 04:15:29 pm
"In this whole episode i didn't saw GauGau insulting teenagevenus or saying any bad words against her nor is he dictating her. He calmly told her to read the rules thread which every forum administrator tells to a newcomer so that the newcomer knows how to construct their posts for a better and faster response. GauGau tried to help her so that she receives responses for her job request faster.
This reminds me of a good old Hindi saying "Naiki kar darya mein daal", which means "If you do something good for others, they will throw your good deed in sea". "

Perhaps you and the others should READ what he did or did not do and say:

Instead of a polite spot of guidance or help to a 'newbie'  he posted his 'standard' criptic comment  in effect saying R.T.B.I. In effect accusing me of not having done so - a GREAT WELCOME. He also accused me of YET AGAIN F***ing up his (presumably) pet thread on KARMA - a downright lie.

He accused me of DOUBLE POSTING - another untruth.

He accused me of trolling - another insult and lie.

If you actually CHECK - he did more than that (INCLUDING STATING MY POST WAS REINSTATED FOR MODS TO HAVE A GIGGLE.)

I accept the explanation of the Moderator who explained WHY he reinstated it. NOT for GIGGLES - as GauGau accused him of - but because it should not have been deleted in the first place.

I ALSO apologise sincerely to him and the other moderators because I was stupid enough to BELIEVE GauGau - and consequently think bad of them.

Prolonging this is futile, however I did feel I had the right to reply to untrue allegations of double-posting, and of trolling, and of YET AGAIN messing up a thread which was another downright lie. AND to give my opinion on "MODERATORS" who re-installed postings for giggles.

Okay, I'm KARMA (Calmer) now, and accept I was more than a little out of line in some of the responses I made to his lies and accusations - and reacting to the fact that he badmouthed the guy whose KARMA crap he'd modified, because of HIS lack of command of the language - yet vilified ME for doing no more than the same to him.

I'm certainly no saint - and consciously guilty of over-reacting. Perhaps if GauGau re-thinks his approach to prospective new users - and refrains from his accusations and lies - and instead is just a little less abrupt in his posting of his standard response, and maybe offers help or explanation he will be less likely to cause totally unnecessary ill-feeling and bad "KARMA" between him and others.

Incidentally, I did not know he was GERMAN. Any 'insults' I made were not intended to be racist. It just happens that in MY part of the world people that behave like him with their petty "JOBSWORTH" rules interpretation, 'little empires' and semingly arrogant attitudes are known as "LITTLE HITLERS", and the Ghestapo is quoted in the same way - be it to POLE, YANK, POMMIE, or AUSSIE. or BRIT.

In dashing to his defense and denouncing me you obviously missed the fact that the blame in this little altercation rests NOT SOLELY on my shoulders, Whatever I was accused of does not alter the fact that HE did lie about me on more than one count. That he DID accuse me of something he had done himself in this very same thread, and that he blatantly lied about a fellow Moderator to try to score petty points off me.

I will make just two further points:

A gentleman (REECE) has done a wonderful and fast job for me - I will note that on the other thread (if I'm able.)

The other point is that if ANY ORDINARY PERSON on here had made the same statements, lies, and accusations to a Moderator or other 'dignity' on here as GauGau did did to me - HIS KARMA would fall through the floor.

Thank you.






 
 
Title: Re: How/why do you get negative karma?
Post by: Joachim Müller on March 11, 2007, 11:02:17 am
Enough now. Thread locked.