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Do you like the "new" Coppermine Forum?

Much better than the old one
- 33 (63.5%)
Worse than the old one
- 15 (28.8%)
I didn't notice there was a change
- 2 (3.8%)
I don't see any difference/don't care
- 2 (3.8%)

Total Members Voted: 51

Voting closed: May 09, 2004, 01:32:27 PM


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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2004, 10:51:18 PM »

I like this software.  I have been using it on my site for over a year now and upgraded to SMF from YABB SE just recently.  I use the Classical theme though.  Love those colours of the Classical Theme.

I'm planning on adding Coppermine software for the folks on the site to use.

http://christianphotographers.com/community

« Last Edit: May 04, 2004, 10:57:00 PM by Patzt »
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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2004, 01:25:06 AM »

SMF is not that new - in fact it's an evolution of the popular YaBB SE forums (they chose a new name to avoid confusion, as there's a perl+flat-text forum software named YaBB which got a bad press for being resources-consuming, unstable and unsecure).
Here are the main reasons why I converted this board from phpBB to SMF:
  • phpBB's database is overkill, since it builds a search index (to speed up searches) that will grow much bigger than the whole rest of the database (including the postings and everything else). Some may consider this word index a big plus, for me it's a waste of resources. I was afraid our host sf.net would complain sooner or later
  • SMF is faster (building the pages)
  • SMF's search is more user friendly, since "regular" user don't understand that they can use boolean operators in their search queries
  • SMF has much more granular permissions management
  • SMF has sub-boards
  • Integration with Coppermine is easier
  • phpBB will only highlight unread postings for as long as the session lasts. If you come back later, all postings will seem to have been read. SMF instead keeps track of what postings you actually have read in the db. This is especially helpfull for supporters who read all postings and try to keep track
  • files can be attached to postings

I used to run several Yabb SE boards, so the SMF's admin concept came easier for me - it's a matter of taste as well; imo the whole administration concept of SMF is better when compared to phpbb.

Of course some will say that there are mods that will add some features to phpBB as well, but did you ever upgrade a modified forum? Can be hell, I wen't through this often enough. If you don't modify SMF's code, but only use the admin features that are there, you can have everything you need.

Another issue for me was the subSilver theme: I just got fed up with it - it's much easier to modify SMF themes to have a uniquely looking board (well, right now the coppermine board is still based on the default SMF theme, but this will change as well - I'll try to make it look Coppermine'ish asap ;)).

I didn't shy away from the fact that SMF is still beta because I know the guys from the SMF team: they're very modest and shy away from calling a software stable unless each and every tiny issue has been ironed out - I'm sure that SMF beta won't break that easily, and it has been tested a lot already - it's YaBB SE 2.0 after all, when you look closely...

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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2004, 04:08:25 PM »

Thanks Gaugau for all this information.

I thought phpbb's search index indexed fewer words than the words that make up a posting (i.e. not those shorter than 3 letters and not those with more than 25 and other rules, I think). How could this search index ever become bigger than the rest of the database?

Also, and more importantly, could you post a tutorial based on your experience integrating smf with coppermine? It seems that cpg 1.2.1 does not have the corresponding bridge. So did you use http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/coppermine/cpg1.2.1_bidge_smf1.0b4i_beta0.5.zip?download?

Is it straightforward?

Thanks...
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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2004, 11:47:26 PM »

I thought I might "pipe in" here because I noticed this and saw some things unanswered.

Mozilla/Firefox crashing is a known bug (in Mozilla) that has been fixed - and I think it's Windows arch only.  Please use a recent nightly or wait for the next release. (been postponed a lot lately but finally branched, so I would go with the nightly.)
The issue will happen with any large section of code that is word wrapped improperly by your browser.  If you want to temporarily remove it, you can change the overflow property in the css... like so:
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   overflow: visible !important;
   white-space: normal !important;
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You can turn on "automatic notifications" here under "Turn notification on when you post or reply to a topic":
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?action=profile;sa=notification

Lighting up green is generally accepted as being "go" or "new" or "look here!"  But, of course, this can be customized.

If you have any questions or feature suggestions, feel free to contact me.  You can also read and/or post on the Simple Machines Community Forum, found here:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php

Thanks,
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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2004, 05:43:44 PM »

GauGau,

Congrats with the new forum, it is an improvement.  But with the conversion from phpBB to this there have been some bugs.

One mayor one is in the addition of code to your replies.  especially in the hacks.

For example in tread http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/index.php?topic=2972.0 There you see that [ ] ( : and some other chars are switched with some kind of ascii.  You find a copy bellow.

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<?php
$cpg_host
=$_SERVER&#91;'HTTP_HOST'&#93;;
$cpg_path='/gallery';
header&#40;"Location&#58; http&#58;//".$cpg_host.$cpg_path&#41;;
exit;
?>


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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2004, 01:25:21 AM »

Heya,

I just found a dead link to a topic when reading translation.htm, so I decide to write this simple redirection script for phpBB -> SMF. Feel free to use it.

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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2004, 08:39:10 AM »

Oh, now this is a very nice one ;D. I feel stupid I didn't have a similar idea in the first place, would have solved some trouble :-[.
This should imo be bundled with the phpbb_to_smf converter from the smf download section, comes very handy.

GauGau
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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2004, 11:46:58 AM »

I personally feel that this board is quite funny....i posted three topics in total as i could not find my own topics....i posted and reposted them
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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2004, 12:13:36 PM »

They were there, on the board you posted them on.  They do not go to the top of the page, but under the sticky topics.  This is normal on most forums.

@Gaugau, is it possible to import the old smilies, I really wanted to use the devil smiley today, the angry one that comes with this board just doesn't do it for me  ;)
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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2004, 04:17:43 PM »

i can't differentiate between the posts anyway...by the way,there are also lots of sticky topics.....quite used to the phpbb forum and i notice that phpbb forum is quite fast but too bad they don't support sub-boards,attachments but if you want you can add to it as a mod.... the new version of phpBB which is i think phpbb 2.1/2.2  is under developement  and still haven't come out yet but hope it soon does as it supports sub-boards ,attachments.........
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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2004, 08:40:15 PM »

You don't like the current devil smiley >:D?

I must also agree there are a lot of sticky topics here....

(although I think the difference between sticky (http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/Themes/coppermine/images/topic/normal_post_sticky.gif) and normal (http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/Themes/coppermine/images/topic/normal_post.gif) topics is clear.)

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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2004, 10:25:35 PM »

hehe - I should have told Casper and the other dev team members that there are "secret" smileys O0...

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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2004, 03:03:08 PM »

Hi,

The choosen characters police is not very readable, that makes the forums a little too tumble, especially for code blocks.
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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2004, 08:56:07 PM »

omg it took me hours to realize that the mod forum (and some other) are not visible to users which are not loged in  >:(
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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2004, 04:10:21 PM »

Definitely a great choice in my eyes!  Of course, I'm biased though :)

One thing I've noticed is the "session timeout errors" when I try to post.

I've made a post and received a response (see the last few post in this thread):

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=10812

Regards,
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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2004, 10:57:35 PM »

its okay but i hate it when u go into copy something which is in "quotes" bbcode. It selects the whole page instead of just that little text!!!
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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2004, 11:35:39 PM »

Pardon me, but... is SMTP or sendmail being used here? (investigating an issue...)

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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2004, 07:36:09 PM »

Sendmail is in use on here.
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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2004, 08:09:40 PM »

Danke schon, will be fixed in the next beta methinks ;).

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Re: [Poll]: Do you like the new Coppermine Forum (powered by SMF)
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2004, 10:40:39 AM »

I use this software with my site and upgrade to v 1.30 everything work ok
with any Mod
http://voyeurpic.heretheporn.com   (adult site)
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