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No Support => General discussion (no support!) => Topic started by: Tarique Sani on October 15, 2003, 02:58:26 pm
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I would be obliged if someone who has used various leading picture / image galleries can write a feature Vs feature comparision for Coppermine Picture Gallery
I am specially interested in comparision with other *commercially* available picture galleries - Photo Post is one such, there are bound to be others
Lastly - be brutally honest does not matter if it makes CPG appear bad :)
This article will hopefully find a place on the CPG website if found upto standards. Credit with thanks will be the sole remuneration...
Thanks in advance!
Tarique
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here's the post I made on http://forum.phpwebgallery.net/index.php?act=ST&f=5&t=1311 , just for reference for coppermine users who might want to write a review: pick one :wink: ...
there are some (read: a lot of) other gallery scripts available - here's what I found out searching sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/):
The PHP Photo Archive (http://linpha.sourceforge.net/nuke/)
Simple Picture Gallery Manager (http://spgm.sourceforge.net/)
Singapore (http://singapore.sourceforge.net/)
Qdig - Quick Digital Image Gallery (http://qdig.sourceforge.net/)
Craft Syntac Gallery (http://craftysyntax.com/csgallery/)
yappa-ng (http://www.zirkon.at/zirkon/scripts/yappa-ng/yappa-ng_main_eng.html)
BBGallery (http://bbgallery.sourceforge.net/)
Photo Room for .NET (http://photoroom.sourceforge.net/)
Mig - "My Image Gallery" (http://mig.sourceforge.net/)
Dellary (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dellary/)
Simple Gallery Script (http://sgs.sourceforge.net/)
Curator (http://curator.sourceforge.net/)
picKLE (http://picklegallery.sourceforge.net/)
EIGHT (http://eightproject.sourceforge.net/)
phpMultiMeed (http://phpmultimeed.sourceforge.net/)
DivePix (http://divepix.sourceforge.net/)
Another Gallery (http://agal.sourceforge.net/)
Palbum (http://palbum.sourceforge.net/)
Vincent Van Gallery (http://vvgallery.sourceforge.net/)
Structured Web Image Gallery System (http://swigs.sourceforge.net/)
Another Photo Gallery (http://sourceforge.net/projects/apg/)
zgal (http://zgal.sourceforge.net/)
n9PHPGallery (http://n9phpgallery.sourceforge.net/)
The Invader Zim Gallery (http://otfgallery.mindriot.as/)
PicturePager (http://pictpage.sourceforge.net/)
PhpPgGBox (http://phppggbox.sourceforge.net/)
PHPphotogallery (http://phppicturealbum.sourceforge.net/)
PhrostyPhoto (http://sourceforge.net/projects/phrostyphoto)
Webgallery (http://webgallery.sourceforge.net/)
Yet Another Gallery Software (http://yags.sourceforge.net/)
OpenGallery (http://opengallery.sourceforge.net/)
xGalleryx (http://xgalleryx.sourceforge.net/)
Spider Eyeballs Image Gallery Creator (http://www.spidereyeballs.com/)
RIG (http://rig.powerpulsar.com/)
SPID (http://spid.adnx.net/)
AxiomPNG (http://axiompng.sourceforge.net/)
iMuse (http://imuse.sourceforge.net/iMuse-1.1.0/html/)
MAS gallery (http://www.multiartstudio.de/)
pview (http://pview-php.sourceforge.net/)
Merriment Website Engine Project (http://sourceforge.net/projects/merriment/)
web gallery generator (http://sourceforge.net/projects/nicewebgallery/)
GNU/gallery (http://gnugallery.sourceforge.net/)
AutoGallery (http://autogallery.sourceforge.net/)
GetPictures (http://getpictures.sourceforge.net/)
qgallery (http://qgallery.sourceforge.net/)
Piawg (http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/piawg/)
Simple Gallery (http://sourceforge.net/projects/simplegallery/)
Fauxweb Image Gallery (http://sourceforge.net/projects/fig/)
phpimagegallery (http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpimagegallery/)
mg2 (http://mg2.sourceforge.net/)
PHP PIGS (http://phppigs.sourceforge.net/)
Smart Photo Gallery (http://spg-cgi.sourceforge.net/)
Photolib (http://photolib.sourceforge.net/)
The Photo Gallery Tool Kit (http://mattwork.potsdam.edu/projects/pgtk/)
The Virtual Gallery Initiative (http://vgi.sourceforge.net/)
LiveFrame (http://www.liveframe.org/)
Galant (http://galant.night4554.com/)
Photosafe (http://photosafe.sourceforge.net/)
yapig (http://sourceforge.net/projects/yapig/)
GauGau
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Holy crap!
That's a whole lotta photo galleries...
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:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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The ones which I would really like to compete with are the top three here
http://www.hotscripts.com/PHP/Scripts_and_Programs/Image_Galleries/index.html
Yes the commercial offerings.... With everyone else we can collaborate ;)
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Last year I did a general comparison of feature using Gallery with other similar products.
http://gallery.menalto.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1015&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
I also consider coppermine is another good php product hope that more useful features can be implemented and inspired other competitors as well.
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I also consider coppermine is another good php product hope that more useful features can be implemented and inspired other competitors as well.
Thank you - can someone build on this... I am looking for a matrix like http://www.photopost.com/compare.html only with a lot more columns and lot more rows...
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LOL... what is funny is I should have done jsut that as I went wading through all the tools out there. I looked at literally hundreds.... I didn't look at that many on source forge, as most of the descriptions made them sound very limited in their capability.
I'll post my current list of notes and URLs... as you will notice coppermine is on the top 5 :-) I'd like to see it #1. I left a posting on some features I'd like to see, that was done in a different thread. I hope this is helpful to you. :shock:
Hre are some lists of galleries
http://www.bykeyword.com/pages/album.html
http://www.needscripts.com/ASP/Scripts_and_Components/Image_Galleries/
http://www.devasp.com/search/default.asp?c_id=701
!!!!! GOOD !!!!!
coppermine.sourceforge.net/
- SOME NICE TEMPLATES BUILT IN
- Doesn't do Treeview
- not sure on flexibility
- creation of thumbnails and intermediate size pics;
- search feature;
- last added;
- random picture;
- user management (private galleries, groups);
- caption, title, description
- user defined fields for each picture (searchable);
- e-card feature;
- slideshow viewer;
- all features customizable with web interface (admin section);
- template system;
- PHP
- MySQL
- FREE
www.fullrev.com/album_features.asp
- aspWebAlbum - REALLY NICE design
- ***** I LIKE the HOT/New/Popp icons *****
- unlimited number of sub-categories
- Rating System
- Unlimited Number of Images
- Hot / New Capbility, doesn't group images in this mode
- not a bad system, doesn't seem to have comments
- No TreeView System
- also shows: Photographer, Source, Camera Used, & Copyright.
- Completely Skinnable!
- Upload images in bulk using an FTP application
- Move and Rename Images
- PostCard Feature
- IIS Windows 2000, SQL 2000
- no demo, so hard to eval the admin features.
- its lacking a lot of admin features from reading the user doc.
- $95.00
www.albinator.com/
- 3 Version Personal, Standard, Pro
- Interactive Album Skins-Themes / Manager
- User Album Sub-Category System
- Can allow other users to set up galleries
- Photo Commenting & Rating System
- Keywords & Profile Searching
- Automatic Thumbnails
- Paypal Integration
- Recurring Payments Support
- Auto Order Processing
- Multi-Language Support
- Multiple uploads from Browser
- Multiple uploads via FTP
- Unlimited Categories
- Advanced User Groups
- Album Restricted Access
- Auto Watermarking
- ZIP/TAR Uploads
- PHP 4.0.6 +
- MySQL 2.x.x
- GD or ImageMagick
- Doesn't seem to have a demo I can test out personally
- $99.00
albumcreator.firmtools.com/
- allows lots of templates, really powerful ones.
- not sure on strength around categories, need to email them
- EXIF support
- Has 3 versions Pro, Basic, and Lite
- Flash Templates
- 40 or 100 ???
www.sitebeater.com/ImageGallery/Default.asp
- IMAGE GALLERY (not a nice install, or initial colour set)
- Doesn't do a TreeView
- VERY flexible.
- Fairly static design but has many ways of moving around.
- unlimited number of onsite or offsite links.
- unlimited number of images
- Gallery owners can change order of images in their galleries.
- Move galleries between categories
- copyright notices, and keywords.
- Administrators can assign products to categories.
- Each image include search keywords which are displayed as "Quick Search" links.
- Create Alternate View images by dynamically resizing the primary
image (ASPImage required), or upload your own Alternate View images.
Alternate View images can also be processed when adding images through
the bulk copy feature (FTP method only right now).
- Users can post comments about images and galleries.
- unlimited number of galleries in the Pro Edition.
- Rating
- New and HOT markings
- installation can be difficult.
- has some great ideas.
- IIS & MS SQL
- $100.00
www.xigla.com/absoluteig/index.htm
- Hit Tracking and Rating System
- unlimited Categories and Sub-Categories
- really nice admin tool
- not bad gallery viewing
- doesn't allow comments
- ASP & IIS ONLY
- SQL Server 7 or 2000
- Nice Layout, possibly try using one like this.
- Has Favorites
- No Comments,
- Ratings Yes
- having trouble getting to web site, can't see if has a demo.
- $97.00
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These are the ones that aren't as strong in their (web) capabilities. Although some of them have teir own strengths.
www.photools.com/products.php
- VERY STRONG ON FRONT END
- Weak on back end
www.cjwsoft.com
- Optional Picture Rating System.
- No Cross indexing of Categories
- Up to 100 pictures per album including
- Favorite Albums
- Set up categories however you like up to 4 levels deep.
- $50.00
linpha.sourceforge.net/
- Has decent Features
- HAS TREEVIEW
- FREE
- No User Comments or Ratings
- Linux
demo.xcphotoalbum.com/
- Hasn't been updated in over a year.
- Simple but not bad interface.
- no comment or rating capability.
- can have Multiple Keywords.
- nice ability for display of additional information, like houses.
- IIS and SQL Server 7 or 2000
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www.cooleosoft.com/
- Web Gallery Mate
- Windows 2000
- nice admin package.
- free
- no database aparently.
- NEED TO LOOK AD DEMO (D'ld to t$)
http://www.photopost.com/
- Limited but seem similiar to the "stadard" model I've seen.
- more pricey...
Decent
http://www.photothumb.com/pt/index.shtml
http://www.magicseries.de/
http://www.aspfree.com/articles/1466,1/articles.aspx
- CANT OPEN FROM HOME....
Average
http://www.portmix.com/gallery/index.htm
LGallery Maker Pro
- File Based
- not sure on its functionality as of yet
http://www.dmxready.com/dmxready.asp?mid=5&incid=11&ItemID=10
- Seems limited. uses a combo box for changing sections.
- nice layout of the detals page.
http://www.photoactions.com/awebpro/
- Album Web Pro
- Simple but makes nice results
Not So Good
http://spgm.sourceforge.net/
- very minimalistic
http://www.digitaldutch.com/arles/
- Simple
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http://www.galleriasoftware.com/
http://www.publishare.com/download/index.php
http://www.fototime.com/
- HOSTED
http://www.pbase.com/
- HOSTED
fips.myserver.at
scripts.telekorn.de/
www.picturegear.com
- non database
- minimalistic
www.b-gallery.biz/
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www.armadillo.fr/english/
- Amazing Search Engine.
- Can show my Category.
www.howdev.com/
- Has nice shaddowing arond the pictures. it shaddoes the corners first, then does the rest of the image.
www.kaorg.com/
- simplistic
www.webpage66.com/host/page/239.htm
- Needs review
---- Arthaus Photoalbum Wizard ---
http://www.handy-productions.com/
- can not demo or veiw .. so
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I' also following the development of another gallery system: Exhibit Engine (http://www.photography-on-the.net/ee/beta/), a one-man (Pekka Saarinen) effort, especially geared toward digital photography.
It is full of features, but not so easy to setup.
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I' also following the development of another gallery system: Exhibit Engine (http://www.photography-on-the.net/ee/beta/), a one-man (Pekka Saarinen) effort, especially geared toward digital photography.
It is full of features, but not so easy to setup.
EE 1.5 is a very good system for personal use although the setup is more complicated. Pekka is a very very good photographer using Canon DC and he should understand more what's the needs of photographer for such a system.
The photo information page in EE is the most comprehensive one so far I see on php based gallery package.
For those interested, please take a look from the following URL:
http://photography-on-the.net/gallery/list.php?exhibition=7
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Based on my previous experience of trial on several php based gallery package, I compiled a comparison matrix for reference:
http://www.tonyleung.com/php-gallery.htm
Please let me know if there are some missing points or misunderstanding/mistakes.
Thanks!
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This is an excellant start, and something we have wanted for sometime. Thank you! Now we just need a volunteer to keep this up to date.
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Great work, thanks!
Small correction: Coppermine does feature a "Favourite list" (although it can't be searched).
GauGau
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Thanks a lot !!
Coppermine does feature a "Drag and Drop" publishing via the WinXP web publishing wizard
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omg. and it took me forever to find coppermine, but sooo many exist!
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What about zoph (http://www.nother.net/zoph/)? It deserves some sort of honorable mention, in that it is the only one I've seen which a viewer can click on an image until reaching the source, thereby allowing the web browser to resize the image. Using the aforementioned link's (http://www.tonyleung.com/php-gallery.htm) comparison criteria:
PHP based gallery package: www.nother.net/zoph/
Package: zoph
Version compared: 0.3.3
Features:
Multi-level albums: yes
Direct link of photos: yes
Password protected album: yes
Slideshow: yes
Zip file upload (multiple photos): yes
Drag and drop upload (multiple photos): no
Upload by email: no
FTP upload: yes (manual)
Sorting on photos (by size, by date, etc.): yes
Visit counter/statistics: yes (statistics)
Album layout editor: no
Guestbook/comment: no
Email notification on comment: no
EXIF information: yes
Photo download by batch/ZIP: no
Photo handling: yes
Photo voting/rating: yes
Portal integration: no
GD/ImageMagick support: yes
Multimedia content support: no
Auto thumbnail when upload: yes
Multi-language support: yes
E-card support: yes
Watermarking: no
Searching
Search by keyword: yes
Browse by popularity: yes
Recent gallery/latest update: yes
Favourite list: no
Random photos: yes
Administration
User profile management: yes
User registration control (email activation): no
Database backup: no
Pricing
Freeware/shareware version available: yes
Pricing scheme: n/a
Metadata support
EXIF: yes
Photoshop XMP: ?
IPTC: ?
Others
Support forum: yes
User friendliness: fair
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seankho tried to hijack this thread with an unrelated posting - I split it up, can be found here: http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/index.php?topic=3622
GauGau
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4images (http://www.4homepages.de/) gallery or coppermine gallery?
which is better?
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On this forum, there can only be one answer, but on the 4images forum you will get another.
There are many who have changed to coppermine from 4images.
But each user has different needs, so the the best thing is to look at both and see which comes closest before needing to modify.
I of course, say coppermine is the best available.
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Okay, I came across another one that I didn't see mentioned in this thread. It is called JAlbum. Although it isn't as extensive in the database area as zoph, and it is Java, it is more user-friendly.
Using the aforementioned link's (http://www.tonyleung.com/php-gallery.htm) comparison criteria:
Java based gallery package: http://www.datadosen.se/jalbum/
Package: JAlbum
Version compared: 4.0.4
Features:
Multi-level albums: yes
Direct link of photos: yes
Password protected album: no
Slideshow: yes
Zip file upload (multiple photos): yes
Drag and drop upload (multiple photos): no
Upload by email: no
FTP upload: yes (manual)
Sorting on photos (by size, by date, etc.): no
Visit counter/statistics: no
Album layout editor: yes
Guestbook/comment: yes
Email notification on comment: no
EXIF information: yes
Photo download by batch/ZIP: yes
Photo handling: yes
Photo voting/rating: no
Portal integration: no
GD/ImageMagick support: yes
Multimedia content support: yes
Auto thumbnail when upload: yes
Multi-language support: no
E-card support: no
Watermarking: yes
Searching
Search by keyword: yes
Browse by popularity: no
Recent gallery/latest update: no
Favourite list: no
Random photos: yes
Administration
User profile management: yes
User registration control (email activation): no
Database backup: no
Pricing
Freeware/shareware version available: yes
Pricing scheme: n/a
Metadata support
EXIF: yes
Photoshop XMP: ?
IPTC: ?
Others
Support forum: yes
User friendliness: good
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I use something called IDS (http://ids.sourceforge.net/) but it is not currently being developed. It isn't php, either. One thing that it has that I really like is the dropdown image resizer. Does Coppermine do this? I haven't seen it in the demo or on the features list but I just found it tonight and confess that I haven't examined it thoroughly yet.
You can see my gallery using IDS here: http://gallery.opalcat.com to see what I mean.
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Hello,
I seek a script which allows the management of a contest photo monthly multi albums:
- Several albums -
- management of using with single vote by album!!! -
- the posteurs cannot put more than one photograph by album -
- stats visible or not
- Palmarés
- controls photographs by admin
- free script ;o).
...
thank for your assistance
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@marc.r: in this thread we do feature comparison, we do not recommend other software. Please don't try to hijack threads!
GauGau
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I don't know if that was addressed to me or not, but in case it was I want to clarify... I'm trying to find a replacement for IDS and want to know if those particular features are supported in Coppermine. IDS is no longer being developed (and hasn't been for years) and it's perl based besides.
I'm still wanting to know if Coppermine has a feature that lets you view images in a range of sizes--that's an important feature to me. Just a thumbnail and a large version isn't enough.
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there are 3 sizes you can get from Coppermine (correct me if I'm wrong)
-Thumbnail
-Intermediate
-Normal
Only time Intermediate is bypassed is when the normal picture uploaded was under say about 550 pixels wide. (something like that)
When you click a thumbnail.. it'll send you to the intermediate picture.. if they like they can click on the intermediate, and see the full sized photo.
Hope that helps. You can look in the test gallery here on this site to see the layout, or click on the MANY people here that have links to their galleries.
I think you'll be mighty impressed :)
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Hrm. That is pretty limited. I also see that it opens the image in a new window... I assume that could be turned off?
One thing that I like about IDS is that if you choose to resize an image, say to 640... you then see all images at that resolution until you change it again. You don't have to click each image a second time to see full size... and no new windows are opened.
(I actually had looked in the demo gallery before, but hadn't clicked on any pictures large enough to have the larger size available, so I didn't know it was an option.)
To give an example of how IDS's sizing works, you can see a page here: http://tinyurl.com/2ecdg --click on one of the images.
Some of the things that bother me about IDS:
--not php
--no ability to add comments to movie or sound files or have individual icons for movies or sound--I don't care if it won't generate them, but I'd like to have the option of making my own and having them display.
--no hit tracking, popularity ranking, etc
--no ability to have user-uploaded galleries
--the way it does themes is fairly clunky
--won't "autoplay" a slideshow
--no random feature
--no a postcard feature
Some of the things I like:
--image resizing
--will display any filetype you tell it to
--very easy to add photos--just FTP them into a directory and it generates albums based on that directory structure. I can also put the same file in multiple albums by just making a symlink in my shell, which is handy.
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looks kinda messy to me...
one thing I like about Coppermine, the pages don't look so messy :)
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[size=9]*GauGau clears throat*[/size] Folks,
may I remind you of the thread's subject? It's "Feature comparison", not "flaming" nor "feature requests" nor "support".
GauGau
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Errr... I thought I was comparing the features of IDS? Who was flaming or asking for support? Wow... if the admins of this site are that unfriendly I'm saying my goodbyes--I won't be returning nor using your software. I'm sure I can find a similar product that doesn't employ the gestapo as moderators. Sheesh. :roll:
photoman: I find your comment hilarious because I feel the same way about Coppermine! One thing that I said when I was looking at it was "I wonder how much I could customize this to make it look less cluttered?" LOL! It's all about what you're used to, I guess :lol:
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Hm sorry, I was wrong: you aren't flaming with the "gestapo" posting, you're insulting.
Have a nice day... :wink:
GauGau
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I have to choose one of them.....if you ignore the fact that the one is paid
what will be your advice?
which is better, more flexible, with more features, skins and etc?
help me to decide..........
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hm, wrong board to post such a question in - what do you expect if you ask such a question on the coppermine forums ;)?
What answer would you expect on the menalto gallery forums...?
All galleries have pros and cons, make a feature list and decide for yourself which feature is a must-have for you, then decide.
Imo there's only one other gallery besides coppermine that's worth paying attention to, and that's menalto gallery, all others have much less features.
GauGau
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hm, wrong board to post such a question in - what do you expect if you ask such a question on the coppermine forums ;)?
What answer would you expect on the menalto gallery forums...?
All galleries have pros and cons, make a feature list and decide for yourself which feature is a must-have for you, then decide.
Imo there's only one other gallery besides coppermine that's worth paying attention to, and that's menalto gallery, all others have much less features.
GauGau
menalto gallery?
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come on, don't be lazy :-\! Google is your friend: http://www.google.com/search?q=menalto+gallery ::)
GauGau
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Take a chill pill, GauGau! I agree with OpalCat, your demeanor, especially for someone who is supposed to be an "Administrator", leaves a lot to be desired. If you think that OpalCat is rude, you should look in the mirror sometime. "Flaming"? You should know what that word means, as you appear to be an expert in that field.
Maybe one of the image gallery features we should be comparing is the level of courtesy the support personnel demonstrate.
How the heck do I unsubscribe to this garbage?
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How the heck do I unsubscribe to this garbage?
Don't bother I will be courteous enough and ban you if your contribution to the community continues to be of the type of previous message.
Considering the gestapo comment directed at Gaugau, a German, I find it very insulting and insensitive as well. Try posting 4460 support messages to a forum with an average of nearly 20 per day.
Gaugau is doing a tough job and doing it well....
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http://www.tonyleung.com/php-gallery.htm is no longer available to see the comparison :(
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http://www.tonyleung.com/php-gallery.htm is no longer available to see the comparison :(
Ouch! I had saved a copy somewhere...
Does any of the other devs have a copy?
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I have, here you go ;)
GauGau
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I has compared several PHP based gallery package and you can have overview of the functionality for you to determine which one is best for you.
http://gallery.menalto.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1015&highlight=4images
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Ouch! I had saved a copy somewhere...
Does any of the other devs have a copy?
You may find a copy here as well:
http://hktraveller.blogspot.com/2004/06/php-based-gallery-comparison.html
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menalto seems to be leading by far (they claim 100k installations and I believe that since everywhere I go I see them).
CPG impressed me once I saw how well it could be integrated into message boards and IMO it has a better codebase (and most importantly it's scalable)
I think CPG's strength is to combine photo galleries with forums => photo communities. That's an area in which cpg could become the clear leader (perhaps it is already?) and in the long run everything on the 'net goes towards people communicating in one form or an other, even ecommerce sites do better if they have some kind of 'community feeling'.
Users do love little details (avatars, ranks for forum members etc.) - I immediatelly saw traffic/photo uploads go up after adding friends view, thumbnails next to commenters and email noticies on new comments, these little things can/do make a huge difference (factor 2 to 3) and once other users get involved they'll start their own galleries etc.
People love to share their photos but most of all they want to get feedback (if they wouldn't then they would stick with the old fashioned photo album)
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menalto seems to be leading by far (they claim 100k installations and I believe that since everywhere I go I see them).
It must be much more than 100k - CPG has 425k downloads and I noticed that now the weekly difference between Gallery and CPG in terms of downloads is just 3K it use to be more than 100% a few months a go.... We must be doing something right :)
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We must be doing something rightagreed. What convinced me was a non technical design guy being able to install CPG+phpbb within a couple minutes - he then told me about CPG and that it's better than menalto (after looking into their code+slow g2 development for a couple weeks) and once I saw cpg's code I was... convinced+impressed.
To be honest I don't understand why you're even bothering comparing CPG with anybody else besides menalto... a couple k installations for the 'paid' packages will get them nowhere, regardless how many great features they have - and the other free ones... I never heard of them... unless the other 'free ones' are going to invent a completely new view like fotolog did or an other new 'killer feature' I doubt that they'll be able to catch up with menalto and cpg. Users will expect/adopt to 1 or 2 different galleries - similar to the current phpbb/vb dominance... so 'high volume' is the key here... similar to the adoption of OSes and text processing software etc. (in a couple years the common user will be unable to tell the difference between software and internet sites/applications).
One feature menalto is currently working on is the 'plugin' concept... cpg needs to get something like that going and/or should ship with the most useful/popular add-ons by default which then can get activated... almost like building a kernel. I am also wondering if it'd make sense to prepackage cpg+phpbb and offer both here and on phpbb.com - that would be great for both groups and could dramatically accelerate the adoption of both of them.
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To be honest I don't understand why you're even bothering comparing CPG with anybody else besides menalto... a couple k installations for the 'paid' packages will get them nowhere, regardless how many great features they have
The comparision is precisely for that - to incorporate great features - regardless of the fact if the original gallery is popular or not :)
One feature menalto is currently working on is the 'plugin' concept... cpg needs to get something like that going and/or should ship with the most useful/popular add-ons
I have been wondering on that as well... However most of the current mods require modifications to the core files of CPG - there are indeed a whole lot of mods that have been incorporated and now are configureable via config.php - this however is not a very clean approach - we will have to think of some way to provide hooks for plugins at critical places and actions.
That said I really like the plugin architecture which is there in WordPress (http://wordpress.org)
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I am still on the fence between the debate of using CPG or Menalto. I started off using 1.1.1 and upgraded to 1.2.0. What I liked about CPG was the simplicity of the layout and also the ease of installing/upgrading/customizing. What I felt that it missed was the ability to order photos through an online service, such as Shutterfly, and also the ability to upload to https secured sites. At that point, I figured I'd give Menalto a try. After installing and upgrading, I found that I was able to order photos, and also use their Gallery Remote application to upload pictures. What I didn't like was the look of the layout, and the complexity of customizing the site. I definitely do not consider myself any type of PHP programmer, but at least with the help of CPG support forums, I'm able to do most MODS on my CPG site.
So now, I'm back to CPG. I've upgraded to 1.3.0, and I really like the new video interface. Also, I've been able to find a way to use the XP publsiher with my https site now. So now, the only thing that I feel is missing is the online photo ordering mechanism. If/when that's done, I feel that CPG would be the perfect app...at least for me! ;D
Great job on 1.3.0 guys and thanks a lot!
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CPG should definitely add shutterfly etc:
=> great service for the users
=> might create a little income for the CPG admins now and a (well earned) fortune in the future.
Why would anybody need https? just secure your (wireless) network.
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We are drifting from the topic on this thread :D
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Sorry for offtop, and bad English.
Could you suggest what software, which you have been looking is best suitable for me?
I am an event photographer, just need that the person comming to my web page, will enter his numeric code (which I gave him when took picture) and it will generate the page with his pictures. Like in nbcpix.com or partypics.com
I also need bulk uploading to the server with ftp, not one-by-one through web form. And if there will be any payment engine it will be better.
I have very few php skills and little more html skills.
I appreciate your help, thanks very much.
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There's a nice review between Coppermine and (Menalto) Gallery2 - see http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/index.php?topic=19893.0
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split unrelated reply into a separate thread: http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/index.php?topic=19931.0
This one deals with the request to have someone write a feature comparison; it's not meant to tell people wether coppermine suits their needs or not.
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I've used a few easy to use packages like gallery2, EE, jalbum but I found these lacking in that they did not allow me to create multi-level galleries. In other words, I was restricted to one category with any number of albums. NOT good enough to organize photographs for easy viewing once you went beyond a couple of hundred pictures. Furthermore, they created HTML pages for each which ate up too much space on my server.
One not mentioned is Lightbox. A commercial product that is almost identical to CPG. It uses a feature called "lightbox" which is the same as CPG's "my favorites".
The more expensive packages like photostore have one thing that CPG lacks and that is (forgive me Joachim and Tranz) a customizable, theme consistent, entry page with a whole lot of built in options (the most of which the average user has little use for). I like the idea of an entry page that is consistent with the selected theme, I just don't want it to be hard coded with difficult to modify frames and tables. The very expensive commercial packages I tried, look like sterile business sites, much like a standard page from Microsoft's site, with limited themes that are more often just color changes. Usually menus are on the left either drop down or fixed (a more sophisticated menu system than CPG's 'fruity' theme. One could accomplish the same thing with CPG-nUke -- now called dragonfly -- which uses CPG as it's core gallery engine. Dragonfly, however, has a more customizable entry page than photostore and most other commercial packages.
Most seem to have built in commerce plug-ins. But the one's I've tried are no better than Casper's various MODs. With most, you have to set prices to individual pictures.
The greatest advantage that CPG has over these commerical packages, in my opinion, is this support forum. You folks are great. Replies are fast and everyone is helpful. I'm impressed and I do recommend Coppermine to all my artist friends. Commerical programs won't help you if you want to change the hardcoded look of their programs - but Not Coppermine. And what artist doesn't want to change the look of their page?
Customizable, big plus! It makes it interesting to work with, and you really feel like you OWN your gallery. You really can't say that for most other packages.
I've been at HTML and PHP for seven weeks, just over four weeks with coppermine and I've accomplished much more than I had ever envisioned was possible - thanks to these boards and all of your great help.
And now that you have a fast server - previously Coppermine's biggest drawback, I couldn't be happier.
Thanks again for all that you people do,
Dennis
www.artistsinhawaii.com/evj/default.php (http://www.artistsinhawaii.com/evj/default.php) using heavily modified CPG 1.4 with Singapore theme.
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A similar posting on the support board (http://gallery.menalto.com/node/85307) of our fellow devs over at our open source "competitor" Menalto Gallery shows a pretty concise and up-to-date list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_photo_gallery_software
http://gallery.menalto.com/node/1184
http://www.gallery-addons.com/Gallery-Addons/Component/Media_Gallery_Feature_Comparison/
http://www.tonyleung.com/gallery.htm
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http://www.photopost.com/
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We haven't asked just for a link to a "competitor"'s website. We know that PhotoPost exists. You're suppossed to post a feature comparison instead of just dumping a link. >:(
Joachim