forum.coppermine-gallery.net
No Support => General discussion (no support!) => Topic started by: Joachim Müller on April 25, 2004, 01:32:27 pm
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We recently migrated our Forums from phpBB2 (http://phpbb.com/) to Simplemachines (SMF (http://www.simplemachines.org/)).
The new forum has got a few advanced features (some of them being visible only for administration), the main advantage is speed: it's much faster.
What do you think about it?
GauGau
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Have you seen these -1 replies in some threads. Seems a bit strange to me, and messages are empty.
Overall seems OK, but I miss a listening of all the thread that I have participated in.
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take a look at "Show new replies to your posts" at the very top of every page. The topics you posted in will have posted in have a yellow folder symbol in front of it, those you havent posted in have a blue one.
To show all threads you posted in, go to your profile and click "Show the last posts of this person".
PhpBB doesn't have all those features...
GauGau
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To show all threads you posted in, go to your profile and click "Show the last posts of this person".
PhpBB doesn't have all those features...
Yes it does, "View your posts" att index page on the top, right margin
And "Find all posts by magicjack" on the profile page.
I'm still a phpBB fan ... ;)
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Have you played with CSS ? :)
I think there must be a overflow:hidden in body or html ... because scrollbar is killed !!! :)
(to scroll however, click on left mouse et put down)
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What do you mean? The scrollbars are shown OK for me, and I haven't played with css properties. We're using the smf default theme, with slight modifications on some icons (partially using the classic icons set).
GauGau
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what annoys me most about this new forum is that the modifcation code are hardly readable.... and the contrast is quite a strain to the eye..
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this can be fixed easily, post your color proposals here...
GauGau
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The new board is nice, but can we still access the original board (Greg's old one)? ???
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i'm using Firefox and when i try and click a searched thread it freezes firefox completely.
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Hmm, so I'm not the only one. This happened to me a few times too, but it was one particular thread in my case. Firefox and Mozilla both froze.
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please post a link to the thread that froze your browser. The old board can still be accessed here: http://coppermine.sourceforge.net/oldboard/
GauGau
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Thanks for the link.
Here's the link that freezes my Mozilla and Firefox.
http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/index.php?topic=3141.0
There's probably more, but I haven't run into them. cpu starts cooking at 100% and the app is unresponsive.
System: Win2k/Mozilla 1.5/Firefox 0.8
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Not knowing much about code etc, but could this have something to do with xarumanx's signature.
See if this thread also does it; http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/index.php?topic=4038.0#msg17588
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can't confirm this, Mozilla 1.2.1 on Linux (Red Hat 9 with KDE) displays the page fine and does not freeze for me. Maybe it's something on your machine?
GauGau
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I can confirm this behavior on WinXP/Mozilla 1.6 (Gecko/20040113).
@casper: Your linked thread does not produce the same behavior.
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Forgot I had firefox :-[ so I tried it, and confirm the same freeze on the original thread.
XP/firefox.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040206 Firefox/0.8
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Casper, the thread you posted is fine for me, no freezes happening at that thread. It must be something else about the thread I posted.
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Hi Gaugau,
I would like to have your insight (and any links you might have ready) for choosing the right forum software for one's purposes. (among those that are free, open source, and php/mysql-based)
I know phpbb is hugely popular mature software so I am curious to know under what considerations you have made the choice to move to an emerging beta-phase software.
Also, is there a forum software that validates XHTML 1.1?
So far, SFM does seem speedy, indeed.. are the pages more light-weight or does the processing go faster?
Thanks in advance,
Hute
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Thanks for the link.
Here's the link that freezes my Mozilla and Firefox.
http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/index.php?topic=3141.0
There's probably more, but I haven't run into them. cpu starts cooking at 100% and the app is unresponsive.
System: Win2k/Mozilla 1.5/Firefox 0.8
i can confirm this. My FireFox 0.8 (on my win98 machine) also freezes when i click the link. First it's loading and i can see the first post, but then it freezes. In the statusbar i see "waiting for www.accro-photo.com" .....
btw The forum is indeed very fast. Although I have some 'difficulties' (maybe i just have to get used to this layout) with the layout. Maybe it's an idea to switch the (https://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/Themes/coppermine/images/new_none.gif) and (https://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/Themes/coppermine/images/new_some.gif) bacause in my opnion the darker colour should be the 'new one'. The light blue one is more neutral and i think therefore better for the forums with no new posts in it. Just an idea :)
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I like this software. I have been using it on my site for over a year now and upgraded to SMF from YABB SE just recently. I use the Classical theme though. Love those colours of the Classical Theme.
I'm planning on adding Coppermine software for the folks on the site to use.
http://christianphotographers.com/community
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SMF is not that new - in fact it's an evolution of the popular YaBB SE forums (they chose a new name to avoid confusion, as there's a perl+flat-text forum software named YaBB which got a bad press for being resources-consuming, unstable and unsecure).
Here are the main reasons why I converted this board from phpBB to SMF:
- phpBB's database is overkill, since it builds a search index (to speed up searches) that will grow much bigger than the whole rest of the database (including the postings and everything else). Some may consider this word index a big plus, for me it's a waste of resources. I was afraid our host sf.net would complain sooner or later
- SMF is faster (building the pages)
- SMF's search is more user friendly, since "regular" user don't understand that they can use boolean operators in their search queries
- SMF has much more granular permissions management
- SMF has sub-boards
- Integration with Coppermine is easier
- phpBB will only highlight unread postings for as long as the session lasts. If you come back later, all postings will seem to have been read. SMF instead keeps track of what postings you actually have read in the db. This is especially helpfull for supporters who read all postings and try to keep track
- files can be attached to postings
I used to run several Yabb SE boards, so the SMF's admin concept came easier for me - it's a matter of taste as well; imo the whole administration concept of SMF is better when compared to phpbb.
Of course some will say that there are mods that will add some features to phpBB as well, but did you ever upgrade a modified forum? Can be hell, I wen't through this often enough. If you don't modify SMF's code, but only use the admin features that are there, you can have everything you need.
Another issue for me was the subSilver theme: I just got fed up with it - it's much easier to modify SMF themes to have a uniquely looking board (well, right now the coppermine board is still based on the default SMF theme, but this will change as well - I'll try to make it look Coppermine'ish asap ;)).
I didn't shy away from the fact that SMF is still beta because I know the guys from the SMF team: they're very modest and shy away from calling a software stable unless each and every tiny issue has been ironed out - I'm sure that SMF beta won't break that easily, and it has been tested a lot already - it's YaBB SE 2.0 after all, when you look closely...
GauGau
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Thanks Gaugau for all this information.
I thought phpbb's search index indexed fewer words than the words that make up a posting (i.e. not those shorter than 3 letters and not those with more than 25 and other rules, I think). How could this search index ever become bigger than the rest of the database?
Also, and more importantly, could you post a tutorial based on your experience integrating smf with coppermine? It seems that cpg 1.2.1 does not have the corresponding bridge. So did you use http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/coppermine/cpg1.2.1_bidge_smf1.0b4i_beta0.5.zip?download?
Is it straightforward?
Thanks...
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I thought I might "pipe in" here because I noticed this and saw some things unanswered.
Mozilla/Firefox crashing is a known bug (in Mozilla) that has been fixed - and I think it's Windows arch only. Please use a recent nightly or wait for the next release. (been postponed a lot lately but finally branched, so I would go with the nightly.)
The issue will happen with any large section of code that is word wrapped improperly by your browser. If you want to temporarily remove it, you can change the overflow property in the css... like so:
.code
{
overflow: visible !important;
white-space: normal !important;
}
You can turn on "automatic notifications" here under "Turn notification on when you post or reply to a topic":
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?action=profile;sa=notification
Lighting up green is generally accepted as being "go" or "new" or "look here!" But, of course, this can be customized.
If you have any questions or feature suggestions, feel free to contact me. You can also read and/or post on the Simple Machines Community Forum, found here:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php
Thanks,
-[Unknown]
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GauGau,
Congrats with the new forum, it is an improvement. But with the conversion from phpBB to this there have been some bugs.
One mayor one is in the addition of code to your replies. especially in the hacks.
For example in tread http://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/index.php?topic=2972.0 There you see that [ ] ( : and some other chars are switched with some kind of ascii. You find a copy bellow.
<?php
$cpg_host=$_SERVER['HTTP_HOST'];
$cpg_path='/gallery';
header("Location: http://".$cpg_host.$cpg_path);
exit;
?>
Greets
Ciccio
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Heya,
I just found a dead link to a topic when reading translation.htm, so I decide to write this simple redirection script for phpBB -> SMF. Feel free to use it.
[attachment deleted by admin]
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Oh, now this is a very nice one ;D. I feel stupid I didn't have a similar idea in the first place, would have solved some trouble :-[.
This should imo be bundled with the phpbb_to_smf converter from the smf download section, comes very handy.
GauGau
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I personally feel that this board is quite funny....i posted three topics in total as i could not find my own topics....i posted and reposted them
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They were there, on the board you posted them on. They do not go to the top of the page, but under the sticky topics. This is normal on most forums.
@Gaugau, is it possible to import the old smilies, I really wanted to use the devil smiley today, the angry one that comes with this board just doesn't do it for me ;)
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i can't differentiate between the posts anyway...by the way,there are also lots of sticky topics.....quite used to the phpbb forum and i notice that phpbb forum is quite fast but too bad they don't support sub-boards,attachments but if you want you can add to it as a mod.... the new version of phpBB which is i think phpbb 2.1/2.2 is under developement and still haven't come out yet but hope it soon does as it supports sub-boards ,attachments.........
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You don't like the current devil smiley >:D?
I must also agree there are a lot of sticky topics here....
(although I think the difference between sticky (https://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/Themes/coppermine/images/topic/normal_post_sticky.gif) and normal (https://forum.coppermine-gallery.net/Themes/coppermine/images/topic/normal_post.gif) topics is clear.)
-[Unknown]
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hehe - I should have told Casper and the other dev team members that there are "secret" smileys O0...
GauGau
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Hi,
The choosen characters police is not very readable, that makes the forums a little too tumble, especially for code blocks.
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omg it took me hours to realize that the mod forum (and some other) are not visible to users which are not loged in >:(
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Definitely a great choice in my eyes! Of course, I'm biased though :)
One thing I've noticed is the "session timeout errors" when I try to post.
I've made a post and received a response (see the last few post in this thread):
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=10812
Regards,
Jason
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its okay but i hate it when u go into copy something which is in "quotes" bbcode. It selects the whole page instead of just that little text!!!
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Pardon me, but... is SMTP or sendmail being used here? (investigating an issue...)
-[Unknown]
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Sendmail is in use on here.
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Danke schon, will be fixed in the next beta methinks ;).
-[Unknown]
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I use this software with my site and upgrade to v 1.30 everything work ok
with any Mod
http://voyeurpic.heretheporn.com (adult site)
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Hmm...
Page created in 7.329 seconds with 20 queries.
What on earth is the matter here?
This is the first SMF powered forum that I've seen take more than 1 second to load a page...
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There's currently an issue with the sf.net servers running on overload - not related to smf, but to our webhost sourceforge. Will hopefully improve soon.
GauGau
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i think it looks really cool. ive moved to other boards because of phpbb's speed too.